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Ponder This Challenge - May 2024 - Possible Dobble decks

This problem was suggested by Lorenzo Gianferrari Pini and Radu-Alexandru Todor - thanks!

Dobble® is a card game in which each card contains eight symbols, and any two Dobble cards in the deck share exactly one symbol. A standard Dobble deck consists of 55 cards and 57 symbols. However, it is possible to have a deck of 57 cards and 57 symbols.

In general, given a number NN, which is a prime power, it is possible to find a Dobble-like deck where each card contains N+1N+1 symbols, and there are N2+N+1N^2+N+1 cards and symbols in the deck. Dobble itself corresponds to the case N=7N=7.

Your goal: For N=4N=4, find the number of all possible Dobble-like decks with N2+N+1N^2+N+1 cards and symbols, and N+1N+1 symbols per card, where each pair of cards has exactly one common symbol.

A Bonus "*" will be given for finding the number of all possible Dobble-like decks for N=8N=8.


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Solution

  • May 2024 Solution:

    The numerical solutions are: * Main problem: 422378820864000 * Bonus: 90399509839271079668491458784005740889517921781547218950513473999637402251071324160000000000000000

    There are several approaches to find those numbers; we present only one.

    A Dobble-like deck corresponding to a parameter NN is equivalent to a **projective plane** of order N. This is a set of N2+N+1N^2+N+1 points and N2+N+1N^2+N+1 lines such that every line contains exactly N+1N+1 points, and every two lines intersect at exactly one point (think of a projective plane as a generalization of the Euclidean plane, with the difference that there are no parallel lines).

    There is only one projective plane of order 4 and only one of order 8, up to isomorphism. Since we consider isomorphic decks as distinct if there are cards which differ in their symbols, given a Dobble deck we also need to count all the distinct Dobble decks obtained from it by taking a perumtation of the N2+N+1N^2+N+1 symbols in the deck. If the permutation is an **automorphism** of the deck, we'll double-count the resulting deck, so the solution is obtained by dividing (N2+N+1)!(N^2+N+1)! by the size of the automorphism group for the corresponding projective plane, which for the relevant cases are 120960120960 for N=4N=4 and 4944844849448448 for N=8N=8 (these numbers are well known, but can also be computed via a software package).

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